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		<title>Comment on Grappling Moves For The Street: Escaping The Mount! by Todd I. Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd I. Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross, thanks for posting the video link, that was a big help in understanding the posts!  

I think the fundamentals here seem very good for quickly getting out from under, especially if your attacker is trying to rain down blows right away rather than stabilize his position.  Cover, bridge to shoulder, turn.  If you train at this I bet you could get out of most real mount situations.  If you add a little shrimping escape in case they somehow block the bridging and stabilize rather than trying to hit you, you&#039;d probably get close to 100% and surprise even most people with some grappling skills. 

One small but important point (for me) that he doesn&#039;t emphasize in the video, he shows a variation grabbing the hips, with or without a pinch or squeeze.  I think that&#039;s very effective, but in all cases, you have to be careful when and how you extend your arms form the bottom.  There&#039;s a big difference that people don&#039;t realize at first between reaching down for the hips (which is usually ok if he is not hitting down at the time) and reaching up for the arms or chest.  That&#039;s the more common thing for people to try to do.  You have to be sure in training that you break the habit of reaching for his arms or trying to push his chest to roll him off.  Those things are very instinctive under pressure but they get you in worse trouble in the mount.  They may work on some people if you&#039;re strong, but with only a tiny bit of skill, they can exploit it and hurt you.  

Second, be careful to bridge first as in the video, before you try to turn, so he has to stop attacking and post to protect himself.  That little shift from offense to defense on the attacker&#039;s part is a big component of what lets you get out relatively safely.  For example, be careful not to just try to log-roll him off by grabbing the hips and turning.  That feels strong for a moment but it creates a very dangerous gap where he can attack you while you&#039;re turning because he doesn&#039;t feel destabilized like he does from a good bridge.  Just my experience, for what it&#039;s worth.  Thanks again, I think this is a very helpful blog post and exchange of ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross, thanks for posting the video link, that was a big help in understanding the posts!  </p>
<p>I think the fundamentals here seem very good for quickly getting out from under, especially if your attacker is trying to rain down blows right away rather than stabilize his position.  Cover, bridge to shoulder, turn.  If you train at this I bet you could get out of most real mount situations.  If you add a little shrimping escape in case they somehow block the bridging and stabilize rather than trying to hit you, you&#8217;d probably get close to 100% and surprise even most people with some grappling skills. </p>
<p>One small but important point (for me) that he doesn&#8217;t emphasize in the video, he shows a variation grabbing the hips, with or without a pinch or squeeze.  I think that&#8217;s very effective, but in all cases, you have to be careful when and how you extend your arms form the bottom.  There&#8217;s a big difference that people don&#8217;t realize at first between reaching down for the hips (which is usually ok if he is not hitting down at the time) and reaching up for the arms or chest.  That&#8217;s the more common thing for people to try to do.  You have to be sure in training that you break the habit of reaching for his arms or trying to push his chest to roll him off.  Those things are very instinctive under pressure but they get you in worse trouble in the mount.  They may work on some people if you&#8217;re strong, but with only a tiny bit of skill, they can exploit it and hurt you.  </p>
<p>Second, be careful to bridge first as in the video, before you try to turn, so he has to stop attacking and post to protect himself.  That little shift from offense to defense on the attacker&#8217;s part is a big component of what lets you get out relatively safely.  For example, be careful not to just try to log-roll him off by grabbing the hips and turning.  That feels strong for a moment but it creates a very dangerous gap where he can attack you while you&#8217;re turning because he doesn&#8217;t feel destabilized like he does from a good bridge.  Just my experience, for what it&#8217;s worth.  Thanks again, I think this is a very helpful blog post and exchange of ideas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Urban Warfare: The Gun Is Loose&#8230;Now What? by Mick Jolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Jolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly right on with a principle I have taught for many years as DT/Combatives Instructor.  Well done.
Mick Jolly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly right on with a principle I have taught for many years as DT/Combatives Instructor.  Well done.<br />
Mick Jolly</p>
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		<title>Comment on Urban Warfare: The Gun Is Loose&#8230;Now What? by maryann</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So logical, we use the same tease in other instances and we know it works.  Thanks for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So logical, we use the same tease in other instances and we know it works.  Thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Martial Arts Training BACKWARDS? by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be a class on adrenaline control. Quick (me), mid, and late adrenaline. As a quick adrenalizer if I don&#039;t move immediately the adrenaline turns to fear. The mid adrenalizer is probably best. The late is the guy who starts going ape-shit after his heads been beat in. Adrenaline is a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be a class on adrenaline control. Quick (me), mid, and late adrenaline. As a quick adrenalizer if I don&#8217;t move immediately the adrenaline turns to fear. The mid adrenalizer is probably best. The late is the guy who starts going ape-shit after his heads been beat in. Adrenaline is a bitch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Martial Arts Training BACKWARDS? by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been involved in Taikwondo, Aikido, Brazilian Jujitsu, Boxing. Usefulness in a street fight: Useless, useless, decent, good. Fights are quick, nasty, usually in very close quarters and won&#039;t allow for any fancy &quot;technique&quot;. Striking first, fast, and consistently is best. The jujitsu&#039;s great if you have the distance for a take-down or keeping your cool when pinned or choking and boxing speaks for itself - both of these are useful because you practice with live opponents (esp. boxing). The &#039;oriental&#039; styles are Arts, thus the name. Fighting is disgusting and super-quick (and strangely, in slow-motion), during my fighting period none lasted more than five minutes. Fights are won quick, resulting in a knockout or a grapple (ground and pound). No time for Jackie Chan BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been involved in Taikwondo, Aikido, Brazilian Jujitsu, Boxing. Usefulness in a street fight: Useless, useless, decent, good. Fights are quick, nasty, usually in very close quarters and won&#8217;t allow for any fancy &#8220;technique&#8221;. Striking first, fast, and consistently is best. The jujitsu&#8217;s great if you have the distance for a take-down or keeping your cool when pinned or choking and boxing speaks for itself &#8211; both of these are useful because you practice with live opponents (esp. boxing). The &#8216;oriental&#8217; styles are Arts, thus the name. Fighting is disgusting and super-quick (and strangely, in slow-motion), during my fighting period none lasted more than five minutes. Fights are won quick, resulting in a knockout or a grapple (ground and pound). No time for Jackie Chan BS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grappling Moves For The Street: Escaping The Mount! by Todd I. Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd I. Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike, thanks for adding your experience here.  Your basic strategy reminds me of the one used in the Gracie system, as far as stopping punches at the biceps.  Except that against a ground grappling trained opponent this works more reliably when you also have them trapped between your own legs.  Then you can add your knees into the mix as well to help tie them up.  This is a &quot;guard&quot; situation rather than &quot;mount.&quot;  Holding their arms with both your arms and knees really helps give you some temporary safety while you prepare to get up and out or reverse things.  

If an even minimally _trained_ person is mounted on you and you reach up to grab their arms, they can slide up and trap one of your arms with their knee, then you&#039;re really in trouble.  Hopefully you never run into someone with that kind of training!  That&#039;s the sort of problem that led them to emphasize the importance of the &quot;guard&quot; in that system, so that the smaller person who usually ends up on their back anyway has better options for protecting themself and countering, whether they are looking for grappling counters or rips and gouges.  

A little positioning savvy makes a big difference on the ground in any system I think.  Realizing that the potential for protecting yourself is so different in different positions, it leads to putting more work in training into maintaining good position until you can get up and out.  Not criticizing your successful strategy at all, just adding some thoughts.  I suspect that these days it is becoming more likely that you might run into someone with just a little ground training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike, thanks for adding your experience here.  Your basic strategy reminds me of the one used in the Gracie system, as far as stopping punches at the biceps.  Except that against a ground grappling trained opponent this works more reliably when you also have them trapped between your own legs.  Then you can add your knees into the mix as well to help tie them up.  This is a &#8220;guard&#8221; situation rather than &#8220;mount.&#8221;  Holding their arms with both your arms and knees really helps give you some temporary safety while you prepare to get up and out or reverse things.  </p>
<p>If an even minimally _trained_ person is mounted on you and you reach up to grab their arms, they can slide up and trap one of your arms with their knee, then you&#8217;re really in trouble.  Hopefully you never run into someone with that kind of training!  That&#8217;s the sort of problem that led them to emphasize the importance of the &#8220;guard&#8221; in that system, so that the smaller person who usually ends up on their back anyway has better options for protecting themself and countering, whether they are looking for grappling counters or rips and gouges.  </p>
<p>A little positioning savvy makes a big difference on the ground in any system I think.  Realizing that the potential for protecting yourself is so different in different positions, it leads to putting more work in training into maintaining good position until you can get up and out.  Not criticizing your successful strategy at all, just adding some thoughts.  I suspect that these days it is becoming more likely that you might run into someone with just a little ground training.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grappling Moves For The Street: Escaping The Mount! by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m good at avoidance now (mainly &#039;cause I don&#039;t go to bars anymore), but there was a time I got in many, many fights. I&#039;m a thin wiry guy (150#) and for whatever reason, people wanted to &quot;get&quot; me. Anyway, as my attackers were generally much larger than me and attacked w/ little warning I found myself on my back often. I found that grabbing at the bicep and shoulder area slowed the punches coming down (making them all but ineffective), frustrated the person, and often winded them. Meanwhile, when their arms were raised (as they struggled to bring them down) I was able to eye gouge and lip-rip here and there, until they wanted (badly) to get off of me and there the fight generally ended. Thus, even though I appeared to be getting my butt kicked, I had only some bumps, minor bruising, and possibly a split lip while my attacker went away with blood dripping from their eye balls and mouth and terrible bicep bruising (sp?). It was difficult to convince police that I was merely the &#039;defender&#039; in this situation. Not the greatest technique, but consistently worked. Of course, I&#039;d have preferred not to be mounted, but you gotta do what ya gotta do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m good at avoidance now (mainly &#8217;cause I don&#8217;t go to bars anymore), but there was a time I got in many, many fights. I&#8217;m a thin wiry guy (150#) and for whatever reason, people wanted to &#8220;get&#8221; me. Anyway, as my attackers were generally much larger than me and attacked w/ little warning I found myself on my back often. I found that grabbing at the bicep and shoulder area slowed the punches coming down (making them all but ineffective), frustrated the person, and often winded them. Meanwhile, when their arms were raised (as they struggled to bring them down) I was able to eye gouge and lip-rip here and there, until they wanted (badly) to get off of me and there the fight generally ended. Thus, even though I appeared to be getting my butt kicked, I had only some bumps, minor bruising, and possibly a split lip while my attacker went away with blood dripping from their eye balls and mouth and terrible bicep bruising (sp?). It was difficult to convince police that I was merely the &#8216;defender&#8217; in this situation. Not the greatest technique, but consistently worked. Of course, I&#8217;d have preferred not to be mounted, but you gotta do what ya gotta do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How To Deal With Gangs! by charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, your common sense approach makes a lot of sense, and I like the comments - suck up your ego and walk away. That&#039;s perfect, I&#039;m too old to worry about words from some punk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, your common sense approach makes a lot of sense, and I like the comments &#8211; suck up your ego and walk away. That&#8217;s perfect, I&#8217;m too old to worry about words from some punk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Timing Your Handgun Disarm Technique! by Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was excellent concept. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was excellent concept. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Is More Effective In A Real Street Fight: Fist Or Palm Heel? by Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well shoot fighting, boxing and the UFC rediscovered the purpose of boxing gloves was not to protect the opponents face but to protect the striker&#039;s hands. All of these people are experts and well trained.

I find it amazing that you feel you are the only educated person in this blog

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well shoot fighting, boxing and the UFC rediscovered the purpose of boxing gloves was not to protect the opponents face but to protect the striker&#8217;s hands. All of these people are experts and well trained.</p>
<p>I find it amazing that you feel you are the only educated person in this blog</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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