Comments on: Close Quarters Combat Advice From General Patton http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/close-quarters-combat-advice-from-general-patton/ Street Fight Close Quarters Combat Tactics Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:44:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Christopher Rahm http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/close-quarters-combat-advice-from-general-patton/comment-page-1/#comment-34337 Christopher Rahm Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:39:24 +0000 http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/?p=23#comment-34337 I totally agree with you. The problem, as I see it, is that most Americans (and 99% of the politicians) all believe in a live-and-let-live attitude which is great, as long as the other guy has the same attitude...which they definitely don't. Even now, 10 years after 9/11, the average American "believes" that if we would just stop mucking around in the affairs of everyone else then "they" (the ubiquitous "they) would like us and stop attacking us...this completely misses the fact that THEY ATTACKED US FIRST IN OUR HOUSE (among other attacks that we responded to only obliquely)!! I talked with some people while I was overseas (ain't gonna tell you where) but they were completely surprised by how restrained our response was after 9/11...they thought we were going to go ballistic, and we waited, then started doing precision strikes. They just shook their heads and said that THAT wasn't how to fight these people. Now, I'm not a proponent of "spray and pray" (opening up full-auto with a weapon and HOPING it hits something) but, in dealing with these "people" (see also animals), they only know hatred, violence and death...the only response to that kind of hatred and violence IS death...ours if we don't respond, theirs if we respond AS WE SHOULD with even greater violence(but won't...because we're Americans...we're the good guys). I'm always fascinated by the American response to the Russians, because the Russians understand the application of applied violence. Americans were sickened by the Russian response to some of their diplomats being kidnapped back in the eighties in Lebanon. The Russians sent in teams to discover through any means necessary (see also torture...and I can bet it wasn't water boarding!) who had their people. Then they captured some of the relatives of the kidnappers, started cutting off body parts and sending them to the captors with a note saying essentially to release our people or more pieces will follow. Their diplomats were released and NO more kidnappings were reported among the Russian delegation. Meanwhile, the American embassy was losing people left and right, to culminate in the loss of 243 Marines on April 18, 1983...with the American response being a few shells lobbed into the area, and the complete pullout of all Americans from Lebanon. Meanwhile, the Soviet mission stayed. If you look at my first paragraph, I said most Americans "believe"...my father, who was a Marine, one time whopped me up-side the head when I said that I "believed" something was true. He said, "You believe? Or you think? You believe with this!" Here he pointed at my heart. "You THINK with THIS!" Which is when he whacked me. "People who stand for nothing "believe", they're smarmy, they're indecisive, and weak...it's down to the people who THINK to do the big things in this world." I've never forgotten it and I'm passing it on to my own children. I totally agree with you. The problem, as I see it, is that most Americans (and 99% of the politicians) all believe in a live-and-let-live attitude which is great, as long as the other guy has the same attitude…which they definitely don’t. Even now, 10 years after 9/11, the average American “believes” that if we would just stop mucking around in the affairs of everyone else then “they” (the ubiquitous “they) would like us and stop attacking us…this completely misses the fact that THEY ATTACKED US FIRST IN OUR HOUSE (among other attacks that we responded to only obliquely)!! I talked with some people while I was overseas (ain’t gonna tell you where) but they were completely surprised by how restrained our response was after 9/11…they thought we were going to go ballistic, and we waited, then started doing precision strikes. They just shook their heads and said that THAT wasn’t how to fight these people. Now, I’m not a proponent of “spray and pray” (opening up full-auto with a weapon and HOPING it hits something) but, in dealing with these “people” (see also animals), they only know hatred, violence and death…the only response to that kind of hatred and violence IS death…ours if we don’t respond, theirs if we respond AS WE SHOULD with even greater violence(but won’t…because we’re Americans…we’re the good guys).

I’m always fascinated by the American response to the Russians, because the Russians understand the application of applied violence. Americans were sickened by the Russian response to some of their diplomats being kidnapped back in the eighties in Lebanon. The Russians sent in teams to discover through any means necessary (see also torture…and I can bet it wasn’t water boarding!) who had their people. Then they captured some of the relatives of the kidnappers, started cutting off body parts and sending them to the captors with a note saying essentially to release our people or more pieces will follow. Their diplomats were released and NO more kidnappings were reported among the Russian delegation. Meanwhile, the American embassy was losing people left and right, to culminate in the loss of 243 Marines on April 18, 1983…with the American response being a few shells lobbed into the area, and the complete pullout of all Americans from Lebanon. Meanwhile, the Soviet mission stayed.

If you look at my first paragraph, I said most Americans “believe”…my father, who was a Marine, one time whopped me up-side the head when I said that I “believed” something was true. He said, “You believe? Or you think? You believe with this!” Here he pointed at my heart. “You THINK with THIS!” Which is when he whacked me. “People who stand for nothing “believe”, they’re smarmy, they’re indecisive, and weak…it’s down to the people who THINK to do the big things in this world.” I’ve never forgotten it and I’m passing it on to my own children.

]]> By: sheepdog http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/close-quarters-combat-advice-from-general-patton/comment-page-1/#comment-34336 sheepdog Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:09:22 +0000 http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/?p=23#comment-34336 read Dave Grossman "on killing" C 1995.1996 2009 Then Massad Ayoub Lethal Force Make up your mind No perp's life is worth that of me or mine. read Dave Grossman
“on killing”
C 1995.1996 2009
Then Massad Ayoub
Lethal Force

Make up your mind

No perp’s life is worth that of me or mine.

]]> By: Devildogger http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/close-quarters-combat-advice-from-general-patton/comment-page-1/#comment-34335 Devildogger Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:50:25 +0000 http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog/?p=23#comment-34335 Patton was such a softy. If I'm not mistaken he is the idol of all the linguine spined sissy girly men who are so prevalent in America today. If General Patton were alive today, America would still be feared by our enemies. They now laugh at us. That is, until my brothers in the USMC land in their immediate vicinity. Keep up the good work!! Patton was such a softy. If I’m not mistaken he is the idol of all the linguine spined sissy girly men who are so prevalent in America today. If General Patton were alive today, America would still be feared by our enemies. They now laugh at us. That is, until my brothers in the USMC land in their immediate vicinity.

Keep up the good work!!

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